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Fight => Small Claims - Step by Step Instructions => Topic started by: fightalpha on October 15, 2014, 08:19:12 am

Title: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on October 15, 2014, 08:19:12 am
When you log into MoneyClaim, you can see the status of the claim. This is especially important if you live outside of the UK, because the mail forwarding service takes some days to reach you, and by the time it reaches you you *might* be overdue on responding.

No fear! Once you see that alpha has filed a defense, like so:
(http://fightalpha.net/screenshots/Screen%20Shot%202014-10-15%20at%203.09.55%20AM-HBzXnIrmtN.png)

Click on "Recent Transactions" then click on "PDF" to view their defense. It's most likely a BS defense that "You're not a UK resident". See here: http://fightalpha.net/index.php?topic=29.0

You can respond via email. Respond by filling out form n180 (attached). It's relatively short and quick. I've attached the form and a sample of it completed. The "Name of Court" should be "County Court Business Centre", but verify this by looking at the PDF you downloaded above.

That's it! Alpha will have a couple of weeks to respond. If they don't, you get a default judgement (They haven't responded to mine yet). If they do, you're on your way to court! Remember, you DO NOT HAVE TO ATTEND. Everything can be done in writing. It will be an open an close case. :)

Form N180 must be completed and submitted to the court via one of the correspondence options below:

The County Court Business Centre
St. Katharine’s House
21 – 27 St. Katharine’s Street
Northampton
NN1 2LH
 
Email: ccbcaq@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
Fax:    0870 324 0166


I sent via email and they received it no problem.



Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: B1A2 on October 27, 2014, 02:31:28 pm
what if we cannot attend the court date? Also, how can we submit evidence like a receipt?
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: B1A2 on October 27, 2014, 02:52:34 pm
also, have you won your case yet and recieved a judgement after they did not respond to mediation? or are you still waiting? If you are waiting, how long do you typically have to wait before requesting a judgement?
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: B1A2 on October 31, 2014, 06:50:37 pm
well i submitted my documents for medation but have heard nothing back from the courts and nothing has changed in my money claim. Should I just file again and include proof that i did pay the 70%? That was alpha's defense- that i had already been refunded my 30% (which is true through paypal) but i never paid the remaining 70%.

Obviously I have bank reciepts and a reciept from their system stating I paid. My question is if I should just file another money claim against them and this time include reciepts since A) there has been no movement from the courts or in money claim and B) they dont have to opt to enter mediation

Just looking for some advice here from someone who has one their court case or is currently in mediation.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: refundseeker on October 31, 2014, 10:36:26 pm
Of course you should file again since you have more information and you have more money outstanding.  Go get em....
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: Sammy87 on October 31, 2014, 11:59:19 pm
Keep attacking on all fronts that are open to you.  Ensure that Alpha are aware that you are attacking on all fronts available to you and that you aren't going to go away; that is just as crucial.   

You have already opted for mediation which they seem to have ignored.  This is mistake on their part and the court will frown upon this.  Check the official progress first and if you need to open a second case, you should also apply the fees from the first case in your final claim amount.   *Make sure that the court is aware of those receipts as they destroy Alpha's defence and proves to the court that they are capable of whopping, great lies.  If you can't update your claim with this information and need to start a fresh claim then do it asap.  It's also worth considering posting a 2nd copy of those receipts to Alpha.  They may wish to refund you rather than having to pick up the court fees on top.

Relentlessness is key.

Edit*
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on November 02, 2014, 06:36:02 am
well i submitted my documents for medation but have heard nothing back from the courts and nothing has changed in my money claim. Should I just file again and include proof that i did pay the 70%? That was alpha's defense- that i had already been refunded my 30% (which is true through paypal) but i never paid the remaining 70%.

Obviously I have bank reciepts and a reciept from their system stating I paid. My question is if I should just file another money claim against them and this time include reciepts since A) there has been no movement from the courts or in money claim and B) they dont have to opt to enter mediation

Just looking for some advice here from someone who has one their court case or is currently in mediation.

Call MoneyClaim first and get their advice. They will let you know if you must open a new case.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: MoonCat on November 05, 2014, 09:30:32 am
Well here goes, I have just submitted my claim.
They have 2 weeks to respond.

I am a UK resident so let's see what happens, I will keep you updated.  ::)
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: coinjake on November 06, 2014, 02:03:51 pm
OK, moving forward - I filed the initial claim and got their bs defence about being outside the uk.  Now I'm unclear about form N180.  Is the "Hearing Venue" supposed to be the County Court Business Centre (as referenced on the defence), or somewhere else?  I mean, I'd "prefer" a US location.  Also, in the example image, the fee portion is left blank.  Leaflet ex50 doesn't make it any clearer for a newbie.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: B1A2 on November 10, 2014, 05:18:24 pm
welp, still havent heard anything back from the courts on mediation so I think I need to call the courts to figure out what to do next. I don't neccessarily want to file a second claim and pay the money to end up in this exact same spot- alpha t lying through their teeth and then hitting a wall at the mediation point since courts havent emailed me back and I dont know what next steps to take.

I am unsure on how to update an existing claim to include reciepts- I see nowhere in the court system to do so?

Also, I have recieved no official paperwork in the mail- i wonder if the forwarding address company isnt sending stuff, or is the court just not sending stuff?
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on November 14, 2014, 03:17:58 am
OK, moving forward - I filed the initial claim and got their bs defence about being outside the uk.  Now I'm unclear about form N180.  Is the "Hearing Venue" supposed to be the County Court Business Centre (as referenced on the defence), or somewhere else?  I mean, I'd "prefer" a US location.  Also, in the example image, the fee portion is left blank.  Leaflet ex50 doesn't make it any clearer for a newbie.  Thoughts?

Yes, it's CCBC (see the sample filled out document: http://fightalpha.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=36.0;attach=14)
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on November 14, 2014, 03:19:33 am
welp, still havent heard anything back from the courts on mediation so I think I need to call the courts to figure out what to do next. I don't neccessarily want to file a second claim and pay the money to end up in this exact same spot- alpha t lying through their teeth and then hitting a wall at the mediation point since courts havent emailed me back and I dont know what next steps to take.

I am unsure on how to update an existing claim to include reciepts- I see nowhere in the court system to do so?

Also, I have recieved no official paperwork in the mail- i wonder if the forwarding address company isnt sending stuff, or is the court just not sending stuff?

I believe you will have a chance to include all evidence on the actual court date. Call up MoneyClaim to confirm. Mail forwarding takes a long time.. it's OK though since it's all online anyway.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: B1A2 on November 15, 2014, 03:22:54 am
well there have been no changes to my moneyclaim since alpha submitted their defense- no updates about medation or anything
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: Paul66 on November 21, 2014, 11:41:26 am
OK, moving forward - I filed the initial claim and got their bs defence about being outside the uk.  Now I'm unclear about form N180.  Is the "Hearing Venue" supposed to be the County Court Business Centre (as referenced on the defence), or somewhere else?  I mean, I'd "prefer" a US location.  Also, in the example image, the fee portion is left blank.  Leaflet ex50 doesn't make it any clearer for a newbie.  Thoughts?

Yes, it's CCBC (see the sample filled out document: http://fightalpha.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=36.0;attach=14)


can you please adjust the completed document as a PDF, I do not get the zip file on.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on November 25, 2014, 11:52:47 am
I updated the sample completed forms as PDF
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: braaaah on December 01, 2014, 06:58:01 pm
Well here goes, I have just submitted my claim.
They have 2 weeks to respond.

I am a UK resident so let's see what happens, I will keep you updated.  ::)

MoonCat, what's the status of your claim? Did they file a defense within the 2 weeks?
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: braaaah on December 08, 2014, 09:32:15 pm
Today, Alpha filed its defense in my case:

Quote
Customer has already been refunded via Bank Transfer. The customer was refunded as a goodwill gesture, even though our terms and conditions do not allow any refunds after a 5 month period of paying the deposit.

They're alluding to the 30 % refund that they gave me. Too bad that this wasn't what I was asking for - I filed for the remaining 70 %. Was anyone successful after sending the N180 form to the court?
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on December 13, 2014, 06:05:01 am
braaaah: After you send the n180 form, Alpha will have a deadline to respond. If they don't respond, you win by default. Most likely they will wait till  the very end and then respond, and you'll go to small claims. As long as you didn't agree to that 30% refund as a "full and final settlement", then you're good and you'll win in court. Even if you did, you'll probably win since UK law is above their shitty TOS.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: braaaah on December 17, 2014, 02:10:56 pm
Today, I received a "Notice of Defence that Amount Claimed Has Been Paid" from the court. It contains Alpha's defence (as Form N9B) and a section titled "Claimant's Reply" where I'm presented with the following options:

1. I wish to proceed with the claim.
or
2. I do not wish to proceed with the claim.
3. I have sent a copy of this completed form to the defendant.

This seems to be a step necessary before sending Form N180. Has anyone received something similar?
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: laner77 on December 17, 2014, 06:57:03 pm
@braaaah:  Not in my case.  Their defence was that they didn't have my address in their system so they couldn't confirm that I was an actual customer.  I made sure when I submitted n180 that I noted both my mailing address and the shipping address are for myself.

My case has since been transferred to a Manchester court.  No clue how long it'll take from here.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on December 21, 2014, 05:04:06 am
laner: You're close.. it should be another week or two.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: braaaah on December 21, 2014, 10:41:30 am
I've sent the forms as PDFs to the email address provided in the first post. Has anyone ever received a reply other than the autoreply ("Thank you for emailing the County Court Business Centre’s ‘CCBC AQ’ Email Account.  We will endeavour to respond to your email within 10 working days")? I fear that I'll miss the deadline if I don't submit the documents via snail mail.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on December 23, 2014, 08:51:53 am
braaah: DOn't worry.. they're notoriously bad for not responding (they've never responded to my emails). BUT if you wait 7-10 days then call in, they will verify that they got your documents.

I've never had trouble emailing in.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: beta76 on December 24, 2014, 07:56:50 pm
I also sent the form n180 to ccbcaq@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk and it worked out. The claim was transferred. Can any further conversation with the court also be done via email? Because on the forms you get from the court there is no email address provided.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on December 30, 2014, 04:09:19 am
beta76: Manchester court email that I use is: e-filing@manchester.countycourt.gsi.gov.uk
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: beta76 on December 30, 2014, 01:53:11 pm
thanks fightalpha for your support here. I also sent my forms to this email. So I guess it takes some time for a reply, as usually :) Just a bit strange they don't put an email on their forms, like fax number. Its a potential risk of wrong sending. So lets hope 2015 brings some good news up here for scammed alpha customers.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: MoonCat on January 02, 2015, 12:51:57 pm
Sorry I haven't logged on for a while. My Court Case is on March the 17th.
I will of course let you know the outcome.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on January 03, 2015, 09:08:49 pm
@MoonCat: GREAT! Is it going to be in-person or in-writing? Please PM me if you'd like to share your documents, as I'm gathering together some documents for a bitcoin news outlet to keep the fire alive on Alpha. Official news outlets will also help the case (I'll put up another forum section with news articles that shed light on Alpha's shady dealings).

@beta76: Thank you for bringing people here. The more people we have, the stronger we are.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: MoonCat on January 07, 2015, 09:12:08 am
@fightalpha:  It is 2pm in court in person. on March 17th. I skipped mediation as Alpha aren't being reasonable and I wanted a faster resolution.
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: BluePepsi on April 06, 2015, 10:45:59 pm
Question: I know the odd's are small, but if you lose the claim, do you have to pay for the laywer/court expenses from Alpha-T?
Title: Re: Step 5: Check your claim status every few days
Post by: fightalpha on April 08, 2015, 08:03:09 pm
No, only if you are found to be "unreasonable" will they put the other person's court fees. In the cases, Alpha has been found to be unreasonable and so has been having court fees stacked on top of their Judgement.