[fightalpha]

Form N349 is a "3rd party debt order". It order's Alpha's Bank (Lloyds Bank) to pay an amount granted by a Judgement. We have had a successful N349 form force Alpha to pay a Judgement the amount of 4,500 GBP. Here is Lloyds Bank's response, stating that Alpha does have funds with them:



Here's the final order from the judge ordering Lloyds to send the money:


And here is the final amount deposited into their account:


So, N349 WORKS.  Note: even though this person paid in Bitcoin, they got paid back in  USD.  So, even if you paid in bitcoin you can get refunded.

IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A JUDGEMENT: Download the "Sample N349 Package" below and modify it to fit your needs. It includes a Form with notes on what you need to fill out, a blank form, as well as a witness statement. These items need to be sent to the court (hand-delivered). Fill it out, then call LPC law and they will deliver it for 90 GBP for you (www.lpc-law.co.uk). You must also send 100GBP for the form, but that cost is recoverable from the court.

Once it's been filed, the judge will grant an interim 3rd party debt order. This means the funds have been frozen, but you need to wait till a final hearing before the money is sent to you. When you receive it, email a copy to Alpha. When your hearing date comes (usually ~1-2 months after you submit), then you need to get a representative to show up for you (again, call LPC law). Give that representative the witness statement, and the emails proving you sent a copy to Alpha.

IF YOU DO NOT YET HAVE A JUDGEMENT:  If the amount you are seeking back is large (~1500GBP or more.. ) then CALL LPC LAW. They will handle EVERYTHING for you for a fixed fee. It is well worth it.. the time and peace of mind is tremendous. They have already won a few lawsuits so they know how to do everything.  More info here: http://fightalpha.net/index.php?topic=26.msg61#msg61

If you are seeking a small amount back -- then your best bet is to follow the steps yourself: http://fightalpha.net/index.php?board=8.0

Good luck! We're here to support you.

[Dag0r]

Great job and congrats!

Are you sure you need to cc Alpha when filing the n349? Isn't the idea that they are unaware until the interim order is filed so they don't have the opportunity to bury funds?

[fightalpha]

Yes you are right.. only CC alpha AFTER the judge has granted the interim 3rd party debt order.

N349 -> judge grants interim 3rd party debt order -> Contact Alpha -> final hearing -> judge grants final 3rd party debt order

[deck16]

Yes you are right.. only CC alpha AFTER the judge has granted the interim 3rd party debt order.

N349 -> judge grants interim 3rd party debt order -> Contact Alpha -> final hearing -> judge grants final 3rd party debt order

great job fightalpha. question: why and when must the witness statement be sent to the court? is n349 not enough?

[fightalpha]

Usually a witness statement is always required. It's your way of saying "I promise this is true"

[Dag0r]

I have just received a reply from Lloyd's bank stating that no cleared credit balances were held in the judgement debtors name.

Looks like they are moving funds around to dodge this, or are broke. If they are moving money around is this even legal?

[Dag0r]

Has anyone pursued Alpha via the N316 route to find out their assets? If so how much do they actually have?

Also say they switched bank recently within the UK. Would they be obligated to disclose these details to say... Companies house?

I do wonder are they simply able to just move money around indefinitely to dodge third party debt orders. Even worse move it abroad (surely illegal!).

[johannes]

Hi dagor

I received same reply from Lloyd's bank for third party debt order.
I have not try n316.
actually the money to be transferred, I expect a response From LPC law to know now what is the most appropriate procedure.
thank you for keeping me informed because we are at the same level of the procedure

[Alpha-Oops]

Still so much money chasing Alpha and lawyer fees, i see many winning judgements but zero $ received, are we all just paying lawyers to buy vacation homes???